Pastor Danny interviewed Pastor Bill, the man who was snatched from the clutches of death and brought back to life at the National Prayer Call in Parliament Canberra on the 22nd October 2007. His supernatural testimony of his heavenly encounter with Jesus when his spirit left his body for 20 minutes was absolutely amazing. This must hear testimony is available on DVD from Catch the Fire Ministries office. Following is a quote from his testimony, “My spirit left my body and started going up, I looked down and everything was so gloomy. Then I entered a place which was so beautiful. I saw a really beautiful church that looked really great. But then I heard a voice say, ‘Look at the foundation.’ As I looked at the foundation, it was built on sand. The voice came back and said, ‘It’s not time for you, go back and tell My Church to build on the ROCK.’”

Pastor Danny stated ‘It’s certainly a wakeup call for the Church of Jesus Christ. I pray that we as Bible-believing God-fearing Christians will take this seriously and do something about it, particularly with the recent findings of the Willow Creek Church (Pastor Bill Hybles) in the US regarding the ‘user-friendly / seeker-friendly church growth strategy’ and how it has been a real failure, producing mere church goers rather than real disciples of the Lord and His Kingdom. Consequently, Pastor Hybels and the Willow Creek Leadership acknowledge that thousands of churches in the US and around the world have foundations built on sand, rather than on the ROCK. This is certainly very alarming.’